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A great way to connect children to their roots

Monday, January 28th, 2008

If you have read this blog for any length of time then you know I am big on teaching children to save, invest and understand money from an early age. What I have observed in talking with people from many generations is that there is a direct correlation between how a person views both money and debt and what generation they come from.

My Grandfather’s generation saw debt as a prison and felt that you should scrape and save every penny you could. My father was a lot like his grandfather and passed much of that wisdom to me but yet his generation was more open to some debt and some more free spending. In my generation people live in debt (I am a Gen X’r) and the Y generation is graduating college with enough debt to fund most first home mortgages. With each succeeding generation comes more spending, less savings and more debt.

I really feel it was my firm connection to immigrant grandparents that went through hell to get here, then dealt with the great depression and then served in World War 2 that cemented my firm conviction in the principles of saving, keeping debt low and always planning for a “rainy day” that I discuss on this blog.

One thing I think parents can do with children to ground them in these sound principles is to make sure they are connected to their roots. So when I was asked to look at a website where you could build a family tree for free I was happy to do it.   The site is called Tribal Pages and it is very cool and at a cost of free it is a great low cost activity for you to do with your kids and involve the rest of the family.

As you build out your tree you have you are able to do it on your own free web page, other family members can view it online and help you fill in missing spots. (Don’t worry if you are not technical it is a very easy system to use.) I firmly believe that a child that knows their past and how hard their ancestors worked to ensure they could have the opportunities we do today will be more likely to value money and opportunity. When I interview and hire people from Gen X and Gen Y, I see a ton of “entitlement attitude” and it really bothers me. Most people today seem very disconnected from the reality of just 50 years ago.

So if you want your kids to value what they have and in fact if you want to value it more yourself I encourage you to research your past, build a family tree and understand why we have so much opportunity today. Research the values of your family a generation or three ago and build that connection. Tribal Pages definitely makes my list of recommended sites for providing a great service at no cost that helps families understand and preserve their identities.

More on investing in copper pennies

Thursday, December 20th, 2007

stack of penniesHeck why not one more post about pennies. Yesterday I did a pretty long post extolling the virtues of pre 82 pennies as a simple and small investment. Again I want to restate this isn’t a “way to get rich” but it is a really cool and fun little inflation hedge and about as risk free and low cost as any form of investing has a right to be.

Anyway I found a really cool little resource that reinforces my point that 95% copper pennies that are still in circulation are a pretty hot little item to set aside right now.

The site is called CoinFlation and I have put it into my book marks so I can always find it in the future. One of the coolest tools is a coin melt value calculator that tells you the exact value of coins when you melt them down. They have two calculators one for silver coins (pre 65 dimes, quarters, halves, etc) and one for coins currently in circulation. To give you an idea of how “valuable” pennies made prior to 1982 are. I decided to run all the comparisons at a 100 dollar face value. So lets look at some of the out of circulation silver coins that you can’t find today out side of a coin shop, some of today’s other coins and their “real value” and then compare them to the humble copper penny. Of course this is “raw

  • 100 dollars face value of silver dimes, silver quarters or silver half dollars is worth $1017.81 at today’s current metal prices. They are all the same because each represented a fraction of an ounce of silver as in 1/10th, 1/4th, 1/2 ounce etc. So these coins represent about a 917% return of investment just in metal value for those who had the forsight to pull them from circulation in the 60s, 70s and for a bit of the 80s when they were still around.
  • Now if you took 100 dollars worth of today’s quarters you end up with about $18.33 in raw metal value or an 81.7% “instant loss”.
  • How about 100 dollars worth of today’s pennies (anything minted after 1982) you get a whopping $58.80 in raw value or a 41.2% “instant loss”.
  • What about 100 dollars worth of Kennedy Half Dollars? Everyone loves those right? Same formula as the modern quarter. Melt em down and you get $18.33 in raw metal value or an 81.7% “instant loss”.
  • What about the nickel? There is a lot of copper in a nickel and it is a thick coin so it does ok. Try a raw value of $113.75 or an instant return on investment of 13.7% Perhaps storing nickels ain’t a bad idea either?

So how does our humble penny add up against all this? Today’s metal prices for copper and zinc put the value of 100 dollars in pre 82 pennies in raw metal at $193.61. That is easy math an instant ROI of 93.61%! Sure the penny isn’t currently holding pace with those old silver coins and it will never catch up to them. As copper goes up you can bet silver will to. Yet that is my point you can’t just go around picking up a dozen silver dimes a day any more but you can pick up a good amount of pennies from prior to 82.

Sure even with copper at say 5 - 6 dollars a pound you would need a lot of pennies to be worth even say 10,000 dollars. Yet just think about it, each day you sort and toss some into a jar. Painless and foolproof, what do you have to loose other then a bit of space?

Double your money in the metal market with no investment

Wednesday, December 19th, 2007

A solid lump of copper oreOk, hold on, don’t get to excited. Indeed I am going to tell you exactly how to get an almost immediate 2 fold return on your money. I am also going to show you how to do it with out spending any money, hiring a broker or even with out doing any paperwork. However, I have to tell you right up front you are not going to get rich with this technique.

In fact this technique is first and foremost fun to do, second it is designed again to program you mind in how you think about words like “money” and “value” and finally last it is about actually making/investing money.

Now that big lump to the left is a chunk of raw copper. Copper has skyrocketed in both price and demand over the last ten years. Copper is used in countless industrial activities and as countries like China, Indonesia and India continue to modernize the demand will continue to grow and often to out pace production capacity. This issue will be compounded by the boom in coal, gold and silver. Consider that you are a mining company and you are choosing where to go and what to do next. You can either mine coal which is far easier then any metal or you can mine silver or gold which is worth far more then copper. Or last you can mine copper which is profitable but if you had the option what would you mine?

Great! So how does this help you double your money with out spending it? The answer is in the humble penny. Currently and since mid 1982 all U.S. pennies are made from mostly zinc with a copper cladding, basically a zinc coin with a very thin layer of copper on the outside. Such pennies are worth damn near nothing from a metal stand point. However, any penny that is older then 1982 is 95% copper and 5% zinc alloy. What does this mean? Let’s do some math.

Step one - When you look at pennies that are made from 1981 back they are heavier then today’s. In fact there are 146 pennies to a pound. Yet we must consider that such pennies are only 95% copper so 1.05 x 146 = 154 pennies make one pound of pure copper.

Step Two - 154 pennies even those from 1981 back are “worth” in currency a whopping $1.54

Step Three - Copper is currently trading at the time of this writing for $2.84 per pound. Hence 154 pennies are “worth” $2.84 in raw copper and copper is a commodity you can actually sell it for very close to the current spot price.

Step Four - Calculation of our return by simply dropping an 1981 or earlier penny into a “special” jar or container is as follows. $2.84 - $1.54 = $1.30 of “profit”. Now take you profit of $1.30 and devide it by your “initial investment” of $1.54 and you have a “instant return of investment” of 84%. Not quite double but as soon as copper goes back over 3 dollars a pound (which analysts believe will be quite soon) and you are at a full 100% return.

We should also consider that copper was trading for about 60-70 cents just 20 years ago and you start to realize just how high your “return” can be if you just start tossing all you pre 82 pennies into a jar for the next twenty years.

a 1943 all copper penny worth more in copper then in face valueThis is a great project for adults and kids alike. The bad news is again you are never going to get rich with this and in fact copper will have to go up to say 6 bucks a pound before you will really be able to “cash in” pennies in any real volume. The good news though is there is no doubt that over the years that will happen and because we are talking pennies not many people are making an effort to store away copper pennies.

In 1959 the U.S. stopped making the “wheat cent” and while most of those have been horded away by collectors from 1959 to 1981 100% of pennies produced in the US are 95% copper and virtually no one have really collectively valued them at anything more then one cent. That is 22 years worth of pennies still traveling around in circulation which means their are hundreds of millions of these pennies out there being spent every day. I always drop my pre 82 pennies in a jar and about 1 out of 5 tend to be pre 81’s. Over the years that is a lot of pennies.

So why do this? I mean save 4 dollars a month this way and you make about 4 in return and you have another 400 fricken pennies to deal with right? Short sighted my friend, the key is you don’t do very much to earn that return and most people are making less on their interest bearing savings accounts a month in America. All you do is follow my advice and “spend cash” and each day go through your pennies and drop any 81 or earlier examples into some special container. How much easier can “investing” be?

Just consider if in 10 years you had 15,400 pennies or $154 bucks. Those pennies if copper is at 6 bucks by then will be worth about get this, 600 dollars. Retirement money? Heck no! Just another little store house of money. Additionally while I never get to concerned with numismatic value because of how highly subjective it is there is another opportunity here.

See first let me warn you if you are currently thinking of buying 200,000 or so pennies from a bank, sorting them out and melting the older ones don’t do it! The U.S. Government will frown on that and possibly make you wear some silver bracelets and break a few rocks for a few years. Such activity is illegal for now anyway. Yet as copper keeps going up (and it will) sooner or later the mint will begin to “retire” the old copper. That is a nice way to say they will take the pennies out of circulation and harvest the copper for use. Of course the government is free to do that. This will make a lot of these 60s ad 70s pennies harder to come buy and add some numasmatic value to them as well.

That is many years into the future but let me ask you this. How cool would it have been if say your grandfather started collecting 1964 and earlier silver dimes for you when we stopped making them in 65? For about 10 good years it was easy to pluck silver quarters, dimes and half dollars from circulation. Today it is very rare to find one. I happen to own a huge pile of such coins put away for me by a very smart grandparent. This led to my love of silver in the first place. Today we have the opportunity to start doing something like that for our children, their children and possibly their children’s children. What would 100,000 Indian head pennies be worth today?

There is more at work here though tied to the production of pennies and the metal price. Do you know why 1982 was the year that the penny changed to a zinc core? In the early 80s all metal prices spiked for a while and even then a penny was worth more as copper then as a penny! So zinc was a cheap alternative and coating it in copper kept the penny looking like well, “a penny”.

Today though even zinc is rising in price and it costs about 8/10ths of a cent in raw metal to make a penny. That is before production costs, etc. This means the US Mint is Loosing Money to make pennies. Additionaly so long as people spend cash we can’t get rid of the penny we have to have something in order to make change of a dollar with. I predict therefore that the days of the humble Lincoln cent are numbered! The easy solution is to come up with coin made of something perhaps even cheaper then zinc and make it smaller too.

Since no vending machines take pennies there is no problem with changing the size of the penny. Don’t think it can’t happen either, they did it with the dollar coin. When sooner or later this change occurs it will be another numismatic bump in the value of all pennies and even more so to the all copper variety. So I encourage you to take the phrase, “save your pennies” with a new vision. Start plucking the little copper disks from circulation today and just put them away.

Pay the right price for you home

Wednesday, November 14th, 2007

Buying a homeThis post is not about setting your budget for a mortgage, taxes, insurance, etc. That is a number you need to come up with before you start even looking for a home. You need to determine what you can afford then follow this golden rule, SPEND LESS then you can afford.

What this post will do is help you find the right home for the right price with in your means. So let’s begin.

First, write down what you want this includes,

  • What area you want to live in
  • Your price range
  • Bedrooms, Bathrooms, Garage, etc

The typical things you are looking for in a home.

Second, start to form your own idea of what is available in your area. Cruise over to Realtor.com and search properties. Drive the neighborhoods you are interested in and get prices on the houses with signs in their yards. Do your home work before you speak to a realtor. Visit new model homes, get pricing on everything. Learn what homes are like just above and below your target budget. If you are going to spend about 150K, then look at homes in the 90-250K range. Learn your market before you even think about spending a penny. Take as long as you need to do this well. Write down homes you could see yourself buying and see how long they take to sell at their price point.

Third, call a few different real estate agents (get referrals if you can). Talk to at least three, tell them exactly what type of home you want to buy, the neighborhoods you want to look it and the schools you want, etc. Be very specific. Tell the agent that you know about the phrase, “buyers are liars” and find it offensive! (I will explain buyers are liars at the end of this article). Then ask the agent what price range you should expect to have to pay to get that type of home.

In other words DO NOT let your agent start the whole interview by asking you what you can afford, you tell an agent you have a 125-150K budget and odds are you will find yourself in a 160K home! Remember you now know your market and you should get a number back from your agent that matches what you already know. Many times the number is much higher and this tells you that your agent is NOT LISTENING TO YOU, they are not understanding you. In many instances they are therefore not right for you.

Never let your agent call the shots control the relationship from the get go. They are experts, they are supposed to know more then you your preshopping will tell you if that is the case. Just because they know more then you does not mean they know what you want. Never let an agent say crap to you like, “you don’t what this” or “you really need to consider paying a bit more”. My accountant knows more then me, my financial advisors do to. Yet they work for me and are employed at my pleasure, I do not let them forget it.

Your agent may want you to sign a buyers agent contract. Never sign one that forces you to buy a home via them, one that protects you from going direct to the seller is fine. So is one that requires that if you buy a house they show you that your work with them on it but stay away from those that want a 180 day exclusive agreements. Explain you will be fair, that you want the right place for the right place and will give them the time they need to get the job done. Yet be clear they work for you and reserve the right to fire them at any time.

Fourth, choose the agent you get along with best that was at least close to the price range you expected to hear when you answered the question. Now take your maximum budget (lets call it 150K but it could be anything based on where you live and your income level, etc) and cut it by 10%! So that would in our example mean down to 135K and now your mission is to find a home that compares well with others selling at 150K. You can ALMOST always do this. Not in every market and not all the time but in most instances you can always find a deal like this.

Fifth, when you find the home you want to buy make your offer at least 10% below the asking price. So on this 135K home you now offer about 123K! All the seller can do is say no, you can always offer more, what do you think is going to happen? Do you think they might be so offended as to raise the price to 180? The only risk is someone else will buy the home. So what you must be willing to walk away from any deal. Most times when you low ball at precisely 10% the agent on the other end “gets it”, they generaly counter offer in the middle some where, you just might get that home worth 150 that is listed at 135 for 130.

There are always deals

Such deals are possible and in fact anyone can get one! I have done it on the last three homes I purchased. I bought one for just 84K and sold it for 109K just two years later with no improvements other then a deck. I bought another for 135 that was appraised at 159 and sold in three years later for a few pennies under 200K.

My latest find was a house easily worth 170 that was listed for 139 and I paid get this 120! How come, the listing agent was an idiot! The home had a second living area, a huge yard (1/3rd of an acre average lots are 1/10th), and a home office. The listing agent listed the house as a 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car garage home, brick and vinyl. Nothing more! The guy should have been shot but it was my gain, we offered 115 they countered at 120 and I jumped on it.

The owners were days from having to start paying a second mortgage and I got the place for a song. Honestly there wasn’t another house with all of this going for it under 200K with in 10 miles of it but the buyer had to sell. The house was on a culdesac so it got no drive by traffic and the agent clearly blew the marketing.

So there you go a blueprint for finding the best deal on a home. Will it work in those white hot markets where houses sell in 24 hours? Not usually but generally just outside of those areas there are deals just waiting to be had. Be flexible, consider your options and spend LESS then you can afford. With a little work you can really get a great deal and build a solid investment from day one. Just remember real estate is not a game, you are not in it to be nice or make friends or even help people. You have to be tough, stand your ground and walk away if you need to.

Write it down and cut the spending

Monday, October 22nd, 2007

write it downHere is the most painless way I know to cut your spending effectively. For the next 30 days just write down every dime you spend, every bill, etc should be in your check book already but write those down anyway too. Get a simple note book and record every single dime, read it every night before bed and just keep going. Write your required spending (bills you have to pay, light, heat, mortgage/rent, cable, weekly groceries, etc.) in one section of the book and all other expenditures in another section.

Don’t judge yourself much just record every penny. I mean if you give the kid a quarter for a gum machine write it down. That coffee at Starbucks, that bag of candy, what ever just record it. Do this religiously for 30 days, don’t cheat trust me you will benefit from this simple action.

Now try something I think might shock you. Take just the expenditures on things other then required bills and total them for each week. Make a graph of your weekly spend over 4 weeks. Odds are you will spend a lot less in week 4 then you did in week one. Remember no one told you to spend less, told you what to cut your spending on etc.

The simple act of being aware of what you spend, where and how you spend it will connect with your inner common sense. We all waste money, hell I do it! The key is to waste it consciously not unconsciously. Choose your play don’t just spend until it is gone.

Those of you who make middle to upper incomes will benefit the most with this technique. In fact the more you make the more you need to do this. This was the technique I used to reel myself back in as I went up in income. The more you have the more you tend to blow as you get to a point where you can pay all your bills easily and have good investments going on you get very complacent with what is left.

No matter your income be it 20K a year or 200K a year I challenge you to give this record keeping a try, most will be very shocked and pleased with the results over 30, 60 and 90 days. If you don’t do this all the time whenever you start to blow to much money, use it as a tune up. Remember you are your own boss and you need to be kicking your own ass once in a while.